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Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger: Discovering The Shack

C. Baxter Kruger and Paul Young

Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger: Discovering The Shack

Author Paul Young, and theologian C. Baxter Kruger share about their collaboration and discuss themes found in Paul Young’s book, The Shack.

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C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

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JMF: Thanks for being here. You’ve both been on the program separately before. Since that time you guys have met and you’ve been doing a lot of traveling around the world giving lectures, answering questions. How did you meet? How did this getting together for meetings around the world get started?

WPY: I’ll let Baxter take the first crack at that. It’s a great story.

CBK: Your guy Tim Brassell in Virginia is responsible for our first meeting.

JMF: The Grace Communion International pastor.

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C. Baxter Kruger and Paul Young: The Trinity and Evangelism

C. Baxter Kruger & Paul Young

C. Baxter Kruger and Paul Young: The Trinity and Evangelism

Author Paul Young, and Theologian C. Baxter Kruger discuss the impact of the Trinity on evangelism, and our participation in the message of Jesus.

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C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

For a PDF of our all interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

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For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

 

For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Paul Young, click here.

Discussion Questions

Discussion groups might wish to prepare their own topics, request topics from the group, use the following suggested topics, or mix and match all three.

1. The relational nature of the Trinity was emphasized. How does this affect our evangelism?

2. It was stated that we were called to much more than evangelism. In what ways?

3. How do you personally view the important subject of the vicarious humanity of Jesus? 

4. Why do you think the gospel is often presented as bad news in popular evangelism? 

5. “Inclusion” and “acceptance” were often discussed. What do these terms mean to you?

6. Please share your thoughts on the distinction between “participation” and “partnership.”

7. Evangelism was described as an invitation to “come share life.” Your thoughts?

8. What are some of the practical ways the “sacred-secular dichotomy” can be overcome?

A few simple guidelines for leading a discussion: 1) Encourage open discussion. 2) Ask questions relevant to the topic. 3) Listen attentively. 4) Encourage divergent views. 5) Encourage everyone to participate. 6) Summarize and paraphrase. 7) Minimize teaching and preaching.

J. Michael Feazell: Thanks for being with us on You’re Included.

Wm. Paul Young: Thank you, it’s always fun to be here.

JMF: Well, we enjoy it.

C. Baxter Kruger: Good to see you again, Mike.

JMF: This time we want to talk about something a little bit different. Evangelism is the big word in Western Christianity. Everything revolves around evangelism and what are you doing to share the gospel. It’s like the eleventh commandment in the Old Testament and it’s the…

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Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger: New Relationship with God

C. Baxter Kruger & Paul Young

Paul Young and C. Baxter Kruger: New Relationship with God

Author Paul Young, and Theologian C. Baxter Kruger continue discussing The Shack, religion, and the hope for a new understanding of relationship with God.

(34.6 minutes)
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Biography:
C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

For a PDF of our all interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

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J. Michael Feazell: Great to have you guys with us.

William Paul Young: It’s an honor to be here.

C. Baxter Kruger: Good to be back, Mike.

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C. Baxter Kruger and Paul Young: The Shack Revisited

C. Baxter Kruger & Paul Young

C. Baxter Kruger and Paul Young: The Shack Revisited

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger and Paul Young talk about Dr. Kruger's book, The Shack Revisited, which examines the theology embedded in Young's original narrative.

(30.4 minutes)
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Biography:
C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

For a PDF of our all interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

Learn More:

Perhaps you know of someone who might like to watch this program. If so, go to the bottom of the page and click on "Email this page." Fill out the short form, and share the good news! There's also a way to share the page on Facebook, Twitter, and other websites.

If you'd like to support this ministry, click here.

If you are interested in learning more about Trinitarian theology, check out Grace Communion Seminary. It's accredited, affordable, and 100 percent online.


For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.


For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Paul Young, click here.

Discussion Questions

Discussion groups might wish to prepare their own topics, request topics from the group, use the following suggested topics, or mix and match all three.

Suggested topics:

1. Please share your thoughts on the theology behind the engaging novel, The Shack.

2. How do you understand the opposition to the book if it is theologically orthodox?

3. Did this discussion help you understand the concept of “unconditional” grace? How?

4. Why do you think there is so much fear associated with the God of grace and acceptance?

5. How does the Trinity doctrine help you understand God’s eternal nature of love and grace?  

6. “Father, Son, and Spirit are loving me constantly to set me free to live in that love.” Thoughts?

7.  How did “the degree that there’s fear in my life; to that degree I don’t understand the love of God for me” impact you personally?

8. “God is flipping back and forth between being our judge and being our Father.” Comments?

9. Where do you think the idea of performance-based love originates, if not from God?

10. Please expound on the statement, “intimacy creates a higher degree of respect.”

11. Why do you think love and grace are superior motivators to fear and wrath?

12. Does the phrase, “God loves everyone” bring you joy or anger? Why?

13. “The incarnation allows us to be included in this communion; that we may participate in the Trinitarian life of God.” Please share your thoughts. 

14. What do the terms “inclusion” and “acceptance” in relation to the gospel mean to you?

A few simple guidelines for leading a discussion: 1) Encourage open discussion. 2) Ask questions relevant to the topic. 3) Listen attentively. 4) Encourage divergent views. 5) Encourage everyone to participate. 6) Summarize and paraphrase. 7) Minimize teaching and preaching.

On this episode of You’re Included: Dr. C. Baxter Kruger, theologian and author; with [William] Paul Young, author of The Shack. They talk with us about Dr. Kruger’s book, The Shack Revisited, and the theology embedded in Young’s original narrative.

Our host today is Dr. J. Michael Feazell.

JMF: Baxter and Paul, thanks for being with us again. It’s good to see you guys.

CBK: It’s good to be back.

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C. Baxter Kruger: Where Is God in the Darkness?

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger

C. Baxter Kruger: Where Is God in the Darkness?

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger discusses the goodness of God and our moments of darkness.

(34.6 minutes)
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Biography:
C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

For a PDF of our all interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

Learn More:

Perhaps you know of someone who might like to watch this program. If so, go to the bottom of the page and click on "Email this page." Fill out the short form, and share the good news! There's also a way to share the page on Facebook, Twitter, and other websites.

If you'd like to support this ministry, click here.

If you are interested in learning more about Trinitarian theology, check out Grace Communion Seminary. It's accredited, affordable, and 100 percent online.


For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

Small group discussion guide

Discussion groups might wish to prepare their own topics, request topics from the group, use the following suggested topics, or mix and match all three.

Suggested topics:

1. How would you explain the goodness that comes from “unbelievers”?

2. What did you think of the statement, “All goodness that there is comes from God”?

3. How do you view God being the origin of our grief and our participation with God in his grief?

4. Please comment on Dr. Kruger’s assertion that God meets us in our “darkness.”

5. Tell us some of the ways that the “light” of Jesus Christ has affected your personal darkness.

6. How did the concept of God’s forgiveness as an “overflow” of his triune love affect you?

7. “The gospel is completely about relationship.” Why do you think this is hard for people to accept this?

8. How does the word “dance” help us understand relationships and acceptance?

A few simple guidelines for leading a discussion: 1) Encourage open discussion. 2) Ask questions relevant to the topic. 3) Listen attentively. 4) Encourage divergent views. 5) Encourage everyone to participate. 6) Summarize and paraphrase. 7) Minimize teaching and preaching.

J. Michael Feazell: When unbelievers are good, where does that come from?

C. Baxter Kruger: I think that’s a fantastic question. If you grew up (like I did) with Calvinism, then you would look at people who are outside of the church and say “that’s not really goodness. I don’t know what it is, but it’s really depravity, because it’s really sin.”

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C. Baxter Kruger: Who Are We in Jesus Christ?

C. Baxter Kruger

C. Baxter Kruger: Who Are We in Jesus Christ?

The Western world has two views of God: a harsh and unapproachable God, and a Jesus who came to save us from the harsh God. But the Father is actually just like Jesus.

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C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

For a PDF of our all interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

Learn More:

Perhaps you know of someone who might like to watch this program. If so, go to the bottom of the page and click on "Email this page." Fill out the short form, and share the good news! There's also a way to share the page on Facebook, Twitter, and other websites.

If you'd like to support this ministry, click here.

If you are interested in learning more about Trinitarian theology, check out Grace Communion Seminary. It's accredited, affordable, and 100 percent online.


For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

Group Study Guide

Overview

C.S. Lewis’s character, Mrs. Fidget, illustrates what happens when we don’t know our identity – when we don’t know that we are accepted, included and special to Jesus. We invent self-salvation schemes looking for worth, but it’s an illusion that destroys relationships because we try to impose our vision and agenda upon God and others.

The world has two vastly different doctrines of God. One is from Greek philosophy where God is detached, indifferent and unapproachable, yet he wants his rules kept. That view of God leads to the wrong-headed notion of penal substitution, meaning that Jesus suffers God’s wrath intended for us.

The other view of God is of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit who have set their love upon us since before the foundation of the world. It is of the Father who sends his Son to become what we are, because they have decided that they are going to give us a place in their relationship – a relationship as God’s adopted children.

Christianity is about walking with Jesus. It’s about being interested in what he’s doing and what he wants--more than we are about what we want.

Discussion

1. How did Mrs. Fidget hurt her family relationships?

2. What does it mean to you that God set his love upon you before the foundation of the world?

3. What is the significance of Jesus coming to share in “what we are”—in humanity and human nature?

4. How do we most effectively talk with others about Jesus?

5. What do you think of Dr. Kruger’s definition of a Christian?

6. For you, what was the most meaningful part of this interview?

Grace Communion International presents You’re Included – the Good News of Jesus Christ. Our host is Dr. J Michael Feazell.

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C. Baxter Kruger: Theology of Paul Young's Book The Shack

C. Baxter Kruger

C. Baxter Kruger: Theology of Paul Young's Book The Shack

Dr. Kruger uses William Young's book The Shack to discuss the triune God's love for all humanity.

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C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

For a PDF of our all interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

Learn More:

Perhaps you know of someone who might like to watch this program. If so, go to the bottom of the page and click on "Email this page." Fill out the short form, and share the good news! There's also a way to share the page on Facebook, Twitter, and other websites.

If you'd like to support this ministry, click here.

If you are interested in learning more about Trinitarian theology, check out Grace Communion Seminary. It's accredited, affordable, and 100 percent online.

In Dr. Kruger's first interview, he and Mike Feazell discuss Jesus' role as the center of all things, and God's plan for our adoption before the foundation of the world.

In his second interview, they discuss how Jesus has united himself with us, that the starting place of the gospel is that we are already included, and it is our choice whether to acknowledge and live in that relationship.

We also have three interviews with William Paul Young, author of The Shack.

For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

JMF: Welcome to You’re Included. We’re talking with C. Baxter Kruger, founder and director of Perichoresis.org. Dr. Kruger is the author of The Great Dance – the Christian Vision Revisited, and Across All Worlds – Jesus Inside Our Darkness. His books and audio lectures are available at TheGreatDance.org. More than a year after this interview, The Shack Revisited: There Is More Going on Here Than You Ever Dared to Dream was published in October 2012.

Baxter, thanks for being with us.

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Perichoresis - What's That?

A discussion with C. Baxter Kruger, founder of Perichoresis, Inc.

Question: Most of us can’t even pronounce perichoresis, much less spell it. What does it mean?

Baxter Kruger: Some years ago a woman walked into my office around Christmastime with a stack of newsletters in her hand. She was crying, and she slammed the newsletters down on my desk and said, “I just feel like a pile of junk!”

I said, “What is wrong?”

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C. Baxter Kruger: Seeing the Truth About Jesus and Us

C. Baxter Kruger

C. Baxter Kruger: Seeing the Truth About Jesus and Us

Mike Feazell and Dr. C. Baxter Kruger discuss Jesus' role as the center of all things, and God's plan for our adoption before the foundation of the world.

(35.0 minutes)
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Biography:
C. Baxter Kruger

Dr. C. Baxter Kruger is the founder and the president of Perichoresis, Inc. and of Mediator Lures. He obtained his doctorate working with James Torrance in Aberdeen, Scotland. He is author of
     The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited
     Jesus and the Undoing of Adam
     God Is For Us
     Across All Worlds: Jesus Inside Our Darkness
     The Shack Revisited

For a PDF of our all interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

Learn More:

Perhaps you know of someone who might like to watch this program. If so, go to the bottom of the page and click on "Email this page." Fill out the short form, and share the good news! There's also a way to share the page on Facebook, Twitter, and other websites.

If you'd like to support this ministry, click here.

If you are interested in learning more about Trinitarian theology, check out Grace Communion Seminary. It's accredited, affordable, and 100 percent online.


For a PDF of all the edited transcripts of our interviews with Dr. Kruger, click here.

J. Michael Feazell: Our guest today is C. Baxter Kruger, president of Perichoresis, a non-profit ministry. He is also president of Mediator Lures and holds two U.S. patents on fishing lure designs. He and his wife Beth had been married for 24 years; they’ve had four children. Baxter’s ministry has developed an accessible website sharing the gospel of the triune God with the world, promoting international dialogue, providing essays, and prayers, free books and lectures.

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